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Welsh can be really hard if you've never heard it before
ll does NOT an 'el' sound
ch does NOT make a 'chuh' sound
u = e
f = v
ff = f
dd = th
si = sh
w = oo
y = uh

It takes effort to learn this language but it is worth it!!! Welsh is the oldest living language in Europe but is only spoken by about 30% of people in Wales cry


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You can her the entire alphabet here:
http://www.ngfl-cymru.org.uk/vtc/ngfl/ngfl-flash/alphabet-welsh/alphabet.htm

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BASICS
S'mae (shmy) - hello or Hêlo (hello)
Sut wyt ti? (sit oi-t ti) - how are you, to someone you know
Dw i'n... (duh-ween) - I/I am...
Da - good
Drwg (droog) - bad
Ble wyt ti'n byw? (bler oi-t teen biw) - Where do you live?
Dw i'n byw yn... (un) - I live in...
Cymru (cumrie) - Wales
Lloegr (lloigrr) - England
Groeg (groig) - Greece
Yr Iseldiroedd (er eesel-diroith) - Netherlands
America - "
Twrci (toor-key) - Turkey

Ask me for more countries smile

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it sounds soo difficult liam!

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I know but sometimes it sounds kinda funny if you dont speak it normally!!
speaking it is probably the harder bit

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How toy write this ll?

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Sorry, i dont understand ur question ybet :S

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S'mae liam, i will say this to everyone in school tomorow lol

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xD I know it will be stuck in my head for the rest of the week

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Nadia, its nice to see your welsh is coming along :D
I send u my love from across the border heart.gif

I prob should have mentioned how to say goodbye!!!!
Hwyl (h-oil) - bye
Da bo ti (da bo (o as in orange) tee) - see you later

Keep it up!!!!
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Wow, this language looks hard... is it related to any other language?

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Welsh is celtic and its nearest relatives are Scotish/Irish Gaelic
Welsh does not come from latin or greek like most others, its so old it comes from an old language called Gaulish which pre-dates latin

I happen to know of a large welsh group in N. America called 'NAWR' (its an abbreviation but its also welsh for now) so maybe you'd like to look into it?
(or am i being too hopeful?!?!?)

NAWR -> http://www.nawr.com/

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Hm. Maybe.

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It is hard though, ill understand if u dnt :P
Took me nearly 5 years to speak english fluently :O

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Well English is a hard language to learn as well! There are so many rules and so many exceptions.

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I was always taught it was a baby language because its not as strict as other languages and in some cases the grammar is much easier
describing things was weird for me in welsh i would say
gwallt du which literally means hair black and in english u must say black hair which confused me a lot!!!

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yes i have that with a lot of languages where you say words in different orders but i am used to it now. and liam do you speak english or welsh in everyday life in school. also i think english is an easy language to learn but the spelling is hard because you there are so many silent letters like the silent k in knife and stuff

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i am in an english education school so mostly english but i have friends in and out school i can speak welsh to and as for silent letters, that took me a long time to get used to! especially with k bcos its not in the welsh alphabet :$

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oh so when did you start learning english?

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i was about 5/6 - its weird as well cos technically i'm romanian so why i was 1st language welsh i don't know :$ :P

i cant even speak romanian...

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